Beth Sarim

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  "We're in the last days!"

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  not just jw's, but countless others (evangelicals etc.

  ) are claiming that we're in the "last days.".

  but........bible students/jw's have been spouting this fake message since the 19th century!!!!!!.

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  Beth Sarim

  We will always be,,, in the last days,,,,,,
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  What would happen to a JW for celebrating Christmas?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  mark jones writes:.

  if they were spied upon and it was reported to the elders they’d be “invited” to a judicial committee whereupon they’d be cross examined in a locked backroom by three men acting as judge and jury to decide if they are guilty.. .

  if the elders decide that they are guilty, they’ll then decide if the person is sorry.

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  Beth Sarim

  What Rutherford instituted in his tenure works for the Borg.

  Celebrating any holiday takes away focus from the Borg.

  It works to this day.

  Same applies for birthdays,,mothers & fathers days.

  Just think of the focus the Borg would lose by shifting focus away from ""them" to allll those birthdays. Also mothers & fathers days. Not to mention statutory holidays.

  It works for the Borg. Why would they want to change it now? It takes focus away from them.

  And,,,$$$$$,, money too.
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  What would happen to a JW for celebrating Christmas?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  mark jones writes:.

  if they were spied upon and it was reported to the elders they’d be “invited” to a judicial committee whereupon they’d be cross examined in a locked backroom by three men acting as judge and jury to decide if they are guilty.. .

  if the elders decide that they are guilty, they’ll then decide if the person is sorry.

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  Beth Sarim

  Celebrating Xmas.

  = nothing short of apostasy.

  = subsequent disfellowshipping

  & the ramifications that come with it.

  
  
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  "We're in the last days!"

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  not just jw's, but countless others (evangelicals etc.

  ) are claiming that we're in the "last days.".

  but........bible students/jw's have been spouting this fake message since the 19th century!!!!!!.

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  Beth Sarim

  Its like these sales you hear sometimes

  ""Last sale" or "final offer" something like that.

  Only to see the same ""offer"" months down the road.

  People go for it..

  Like the Borg,,,, a sucker is born every minute.
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  Crisis of Conscience available for free on Audible

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i'm unclear on how this has been achieved or if permissions have been given.

  presumably, audible (part of amazon) have their own procedures to ensure legality, but here it is nonetheless;.

  listen to crisis of conscience - raymond franz by crisis of conscience - raymond franz on audible.

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  Beth Sarim

  Crisis od Conscience.

  Reading it once. Thats all it took to drive all my doubts home.

  Every doubt and question I had about the Borg,,,were driven home. With one swing of the bat!!

  
  
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  The Good News Is: The Great-Crowd-Of-Other-Sheep Do Not Exist

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the watchtower conflates two different groups into one fictional church-age group that according to the watchtower, are saved by works and faith/membership in the jehovah witness organization.

  according to watchtower, only the now mostly dead 144k receive the promises of god regarding justification .

  everbody else missed the boat and must work for their justification for a thousand years.

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  Beth Sarim

  The Borg takes part of the Revelation scriptures as literal,,,then a few sentences later its symbolic.

  Confusing? No??
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  "We're in the last days!"

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  not just jw's, but countless others (evangelicals etc.

  ) are claiming that we're in the "last days.".

  but........bible students/jw's have been spouting this fake message since the 19th century!!!!!!.

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  Beth Sarim

  Yes.

  Its a scientific fact.

  The sun will most definitely expand into a red giant superstar. Engulfing all the inner planets possibly as far as Mars.

  It happens to all stars. Its part of the cycle
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  The Good News Is: The Great-Crowd-Of-Other-Sheep Do Not Exist

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the watchtower conflates two different groups into one fictional church-age group that according to the watchtower, are saved by works and faith/membership in the jehovah witness organization.

  according to watchtower, only the now mostly dead 144k receive the promises of god regarding justification .

  everbody else missed the boat and must work for their justification for a thousand years.

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  Beth Sarim

  When you hear "only Jehovah knows".

  In other words it means " we have no idea,,we don't know or haven't got a clue. We're just making it up as we go"".
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  "We're in the last days!"

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  not just jw's, but countless others (evangelicals etc.

  ) are claiming that we're in the "last days.".

  but........bible students/jw's have been spouting this fake message since the 19th century!!!!!!.

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  Beth Sarim

  Teach prophets make profits,,from false prophets.
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  Pomo because of Proclaimers book, 1995 generation change and Daniel prophecy book

  by Gorb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  have some time thinking about my recent and less recent personal history because of the summer holiday.. the 90's crossed my mind.

  the years i became pimo.

  a friend, a room mate during the 1993 moscow international convention, went to university.

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  Beth Sarim

  I think,,,,,.

  ,,,,, people just stay in the Borg because of family,, friends or of course,,, the sunk cost fallacy.

  Even if they no longer believe ""it"".